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I got a Fav on one of my photos from Footnoting and I went by his profile to thank him.  Then I saw this journal entry.  (UPDATE: Good thing I took screenshots, predictably the coward removed it - AND THEN REPLACED IT WITH SOMETHING WORSE!  Scroll down for more.)  He's ranting about one of my friend Lochai's photos, which he's placed in a folder labeled "Utter Evil."

His post is a pretty typical mishmash of crap from a guy who goes on & on about how he "adores" women, and they're the "highest form of evolution" and so are "sacrosanct" but it's clear from his collections and his poems that he spends ALL his time fetishising women (primarily their feet) as sexual objects, and obsessing about women being tied up and in bondage.  He also pictures himself as some sort of "savior" who's going to rescue all the maidens from "EVIL DOMS," and he has odd religious obsessions that sound like an abusive Catholic background affected him.

I asked some pointed questions, which I'll append at the end of this as he's likely to hide my post if he sees this.  It's important to note that in his response he avoided MOST of my questions, such as what about Fem Dom on male or female sub.  In other words he's a tired cliche (words chosen deliberately for reasons you'll see in a moment) of a guy who puts women on a pedestal as being "holy" largely in order to forestall his own urge to degrade them and likely to be degraded by them.  His poems are full of creepy imagery about watching young girls in parks, staring at womens' feet on the street (and I say that as a foot fetishist & someone who makes foot vids... he's weird about it), weird vore fantasies about guys breeding giant plants to eat their wives, really scary stuff about murdering male Doms via torture & live burial & such, and pseudo-religious imagery about how he reveres the Saint's words but wishes he could evade it to be entirely made of eyes to stare at women more.  Contrary to the note he sent me, and his reply to me, his mentality is the kind that's far more likely to evolve in to something harmful.

This's the note (screenshot HERE):
I responded back to your interesting questions, and I hope I anwered recpectfully.

Out of curiosity, and against my better judgment, I took a look at your gallery. It had all the tired cliches of bdsm, which did not surprise me, but then I saw the woman tied to a cross.

That is offensive to the Nth degree. It is a shame that we live in a society where such blasphemy is allowed to be presented, and is tolerated.

However, I do not have to tolerate it in my space at DA. Therefore, I am asking you not to contact me again. I am doing so by note, rather than commenting on the photograph, since I have no invitation to your gallery, nor would my opinions be welcome there.

I noticed that none of the models who were subjected to rigging and such looked very happy about it. Their expressions do not bespeak erotica as much as boredom or, I think, even fear. In that respect, my friend, your work---in my opinion---is a colossal failure.

Again, do not contact me again.


Needless to say he blocked me, so his "do not contact" is moot.

I have bad news for you, dude:



You not only reduce women to objects of your fantasy and think of yourself as some sort of mystical & heavenly "protector," you do it in such a way that requires you to insist that those women who don't fit your standard are "sick" and need "help" and are "brainwashed."  You would deny them their choices and force them in to treatment to fit the mold you think they belong in.  ou don't "revere" or "worship" women as "holy," you make them in to pretty objects that're the subject of your impotent savior fantasies and likely didn't answer my questions about them engaging in BDSM behavior towards men because you crave the abuse & degradation from your own religious guilt over your feelings of shame in your own lust.  YOU are the type who ends up becoming a rapist or killer, not me or my viewers.  We're honest about our kink and ourselves and seek fulfillment openly.

The original journal post & replies:


UPDATE:
So after a few hours & apparently a few more people (including Promet-he-us according to his reply here), this idiot deleted his entry (if anyone who added comments took screenshots let me know and I'll add them) and replaces it with a new one called "Consider Mary Kelly." (Screenshot HERE.)
THIS is where he shows clearly why I say he's FAR more dangerous than a practitioner of consensual BDSM.  For those who don't know, Mary Kelly was one of Jack the Ripper's victims (serial killers in general and Jack in particular are part of this guy's obsession).  He puts in this canard: "I side with the feminists here.  That which depicts abuse of a woman, no matter what the context, contributes to the abuse of women."  That, of course, doesn't recognize that there's a real division among feminists on this topic and that a huge group of them will note feminism is about CHOICE and doing what they want, not being TOLD they are "sick" and should stop something by a man who considers them nothing but objects.  He also posits it was Victorian paintings of De Sade type scenes that set Jack off, says there's no difference between whipping someone and gutting someone with a knife, calls for making BDSM in any form illegal as Nazi symbols are in some places, etc. More of the usual BS.  But THIS sentence is where he shows how sick he is:
"Sure, Mary Kelly consented to let that sonofabitch into her apartment, and she consented to get naked for him; and that consent apparently gave him the license to slice her up and serve her raw to the people who found her the next day."

THAT, Mr. q-v, Mr. Misted Teacup, is not just a total lack of understanding of informed consent, THAT is the mindset and justification of EVERY RAPIST EVER.  No, her letting him in the apartment and agreeing to money for sex in NO WAY gave her consent to be killed.  Rational human beings who see women as people and not objects understand that a woman, even a sex worker, can withdraw consent at any time & this MUST be respected.  Respecting consent is one of the cornerstones of the BDSM community.  The people who don't understand it are rapists, killers, and, apparently, you.

Update to the update:  While I was typing this, he's been arguing with jeremyalan (not someone I know) and he's gone from the Nazi comparison to saying those who disagree with him are practicing Bolshevik tactics, so we have references to Nazis & Communist here.  He also insists anyone who disagrees with him can't possibly have a point and is just arguing because they want to abuse women, and claims he's researched with a "medical professional" about what pain is & won't entertain any arguments unless someone can discredit this un-cited research from an un-named professional.  Idiot.
The comparisons to Nazis & Communists are especially laughable because he says this:
I realize society, as it is, will tolerate bdsm because we tolerate anything. But History teaches that every era of license is followed by an era reactionary (in the negative) to that license. I do not expect to see that era in my lifetime. But it is coming. All of the signs are there that it is coming. And, when it does, the public depiction of abuse of a woman will result in a midnight knock at the door, and a quick whisk away to a place that will be terrifying beyond words to tell.
That, of course, is exactly what the Communists & Nazis did.

Postscript:
I should append this with a note that I am not unused to condemnation of my work. I shoot BDSM, I shoot erotica, and I shoot graphic bloody horror. There're ALWAYS people offended by these things, and I've been called all sorts of names before... everything from "murderer" to "child molester."  When I got one of my horror DDs people were literally calling for me to be arrested.  (You can see it in the comments.)

I'm not pissed or disturbed because this guy insulted me, I'm bothered that a guy with obviously unhealthy attitudes towards women is out there not only calling for work like mine to be outlawed (something I've heard MANY times before) but for society to sanction my DEATH. When someone who's as out there as this is arguing for the right to KILL me, it's bothersome.

Late update:  I caught more of the comments before he started hiding everything & then deleted the post. www.slephoto.com/webpost/q-v_w… www.slephoto.com/webpost/q-v_w… www.slephoto.com/webpost/q-v_w…
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012   General Artist
I am afraid I am responsible for most of the comments to his last post as well as his releaving reprises to it and I am not so afraid for presumably also being resonsible for him to delete that again. I only secured part of it, but am willing to share my prints in pdf files, may it be just for your amusement. :D
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'd love to see those. You can send them to james@(my DA name).com
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012   General Artist
Sent. Look out for my da DA-Name as well... ;)
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Got it :)
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012   General Artist
Who wouldn't! :lol: (Sorry couldn't help myself there)
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012   General Artist
revealing
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ozma914 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2012
"It is a shame that we live in a society where such blasphemy is allowed to be presented, and is tolerated."

He says that, then calls other people Nazi's and communists? As a Christian, I think the only decent thing to do is take up a collection to help him move to a country where such blasphemy is not allowed. Pakistan, maybe, or China.
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Well given his love of secret police who come in the night to take people away for thought-crime, China would be a good fit.
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ozma914 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2012
Let's start pricing tickets!
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012   General Artist
I couldn't help but to deliver another reprise to this guys' newest masterpiece, I have no screenshot of my last reply though, but I preserved the text, just in case. Of my newest reply I have taken a print in a pdf file though...
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I am watching & updating the screenshots. He's getting crazier. He replied to someone else a few minutes ago:
"No, i have never written anything advocating murder. I think the abuse of women, whether consnesual or not, should be penalized if is public or if, in private, it is caught and proven, and that the penalty should be in kind (as Dante would have it)---severe and unpleasant. Murder is between individuals, and I would never suggest that any individual take the law into his own hands. I do suggest, though, that society follow the Israeli example and deem this kind of depiction or activity heinous and unacceptable. Depicting the abuse of women encourages the abuse of women, because there are a lot of nuts out there who are not refined enough to understand bdsm's ssc and all the other propoganda by which it justifies itself, and those nuts will just see a man flogging a woman, and they will want to follow the example."

First of all he has at least a dozen poems lovingly detailing bursting in on a BDSM session and torturing the Dom to death, whereupon the rescued woman is grateful... all with disclaimers, of course, that it's just fiction so he's not "advocating." Nice double standard that erotica like ours inevitably leads to harm but his murder fantasies are OK. Second, yeah, "murder is between individuals," which's why he's calling for a secret police force to do it under state sanction. And third, he IS one of those nuts who's afraid of following the example & not knowing when to quit, because he doesn't understand the difference between an invitation for sex & an invitation for murder.
That's his idea of feminism, too. Ugh.
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012   General Artist
Besides that he is totally uninformed, badly educated and does not follow logic. Sounds very much like those people we own the good times in human history. :D
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012   General Artist
Oh I found it: Here is my first response to his nonsensical text:

"Funny. Lack of knowledge does not keep people from having an oppinion.

Have you ever talked to one of the "victims"? Most obviously not. Many of them are held in higher esteem than most women are in a vanilla relationship - oops, that is what we call normal people . Many if not most dominant males I know would gladly die in defence of "their victims", they are cherished and loved beyond anything vanillas can imagine - oops, there it is again. Yes, in between we do nasty stuff to them but always within limits they set and because they ask, sometimes even beg us to do so. We do it because we both like it! It is called SSC and you can look it up if you really want to do more than to feed your own narrow view of the world.

I am aware that that is beyond most normal peoples scope and since it is, they claim it can never be there or work like that. What a pitty to be in such a narrow mindset.

By they way, as to the pain, I hope you never will fall in love, because passion means suffering and you incurr it willingly in a relationship, my oh my, that would render you a pervert, right? Same is also true for very hard military or sports training, needs to willingly put your body through pain for achieving something. All those triathletes, boxers, marathon runners, everybody going through basic training, the more so true for the trainers then, all perverts, right? Have fun relating the fact to them ... :lol:"
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jeremyalan Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
The guy is rather...close minded. I've actually been debating with him on both the original posting and the new one. He just doesn't seem to understand that if you truly look into and get into the BDSM Lifestyle it is first and foremost about trust. And that the sub has far more power over the Dom in most cases then vice versa. But instead of actually learning about a subject he seems to want to spout on about how a real man would never hit a woman. Which leads me to believe he is either a closet Dom afraid of the feelings he has when he sees a woman (which is far more likely for him then to be the next serial killer then somebody who let's it out slowly and lightly)...or is a closet sub that hates himself for enjoying to be beaten, and since he is a man thinks it's the right of a woman to beat men.
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Given his obsession with binding & beating women, and his inability to tell consent for sex from consent to murder, I'd say the former.
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vantheman9 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This guy puts a lot of time into this. As an artist, I sort of lose respect for people when I get a hunch that they spend more time "saying" and less time "doing". He writes so much, does he ever see the sun and the blue sky?
Reality is an opinion. That's all I can say about his philosophies. We all live in our own dimensions, which are defined by our perceptions, blah blah blah... "it's real if it's real to me". ESPECIALLY with things concerning gender. Gender is arbitrary, complicated, subjective.

His whole talk about pain is kinda hackneyed too. Speaks of a one dimensional view of things, that doesn't discern between the shades of grey and calls them all black, because they aren't plain white. Hm, I just googled "dichotomous thinking"....yeah it's an unhealthy thing apparently, got a bunch of psychology results. Hm. An impediment to considering multiple conclusions. Really curious that he didn't answer "what about femdom?".
Ah well, I'm sure he'd like to call my view of things flat just the same...that is to the extent that I even define a view. I'm learning more and more that it's optional to decide and that I don't like to decide things until I've observed and observed some more...especially on things like gender or morality. Evidence of something can change my mind, suddenly or gradually. Jesus could be real. The Matrix could be real too. He could also be a mystical protector of women. Chances are we have a strong confirmation bias about this means of expressing love too. Gotta check ourselves.

I dunno if I would fling insults and condemnation like you are. This seems like a person who made some rational applications of common sense/conventional wisdom, and then ran with it in his head really far. Thinking a lot, observing a little.. spending a lot of time alone and not a lot of time enjoying life, thinking based on the known to achieve happiness(because we all achieve relative happiness that way)... it's a human like we are, for whatever reasons, wherever it's coming from, and entitled to his own opinions, with a right to voice them. I didn't want to look at his poems tho, because his writing makes my intestines move unpleasantly, so I didn't see any of the face changing you're talking about, your word is enough for me there.

Thing about your white knight cartoon there, since most white knights also tell themselves they don't want sex, they'd be fine with the cartoon. Maybe not this particular guy, but in general, if they think sex is evil or if they think they're being selfless(they all do), the joke is lost on them...
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I dunno if I would fling insults and condemnation like you are.

This guy is genuinely frightening in that he's not only calling for laws to outlaw what I do, he's arguing for a society where I would be taken in the night & murdered, and in the mean time he fantasizes about killing me himself... when he's not engaging in fantasies about abusing women without their consent. He deserves every bit of condemnation I can muster.
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vantheman9 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmm. Reading this most recent update you put up.

I dunno, does he hurt anything by writing? He doesn't even really seem sincere, like it's a farce. Okay, no, that's coming from me, I'm just in denial that a person can be this far away, but it is possible.
Even still, the way the internet works, if an opinion is unpopular and irrational(both of those), it gets stoned to death.

Do you feel he's stepping outside his rights into unprotected speech? Hate speech as it is? I mean, he pisses you off, okay, is it worth any of your stress? Do you censor or it do you just look the other way? Trying to change him isn't a choice, he's not listening.
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Saying he dislikes my work & feels it should be outlawed is one thing. Calling for me to be lynched until laws can be passed to allow the government to murder me in the night is hate speech.

More to the point, his comments about consent & the interactions he describes with women point to him having great potential to be an actual danger to others.

Censor him? No. Call attention to him? Yep.
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ehoagland66 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's quite a lot of people like this on FetLife. I had to close my account because there were so many.

I did my very first manipulation for you [link]

I've always enjoyed your photos. I'm sorry this happened to you.

I can tell people that you and your friend who appeared in that work were some of the nicest people I've done work for.
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Eh. It happens. The picture he initially went off on isn't mine, it belongs to friends. I just hate that sort of idiocy,
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Promet-he-us Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012   General Artist
I couldn't help but grace that **** with a reply to his nonsense.

Nonsensical stuff but not rare these days. If you cannot understand it, hate it. If you therefor ought to hate yourself, externalise it and hate the one you pinned it on. As seen here.

Well whatever, we know what is true and what not, no matter what others may claim. Our relationships are as loving, respectful and cherishing as those of the normal people, if not more due to the necessary intimacy and trust involved - so he can rant on, but leaves himself only to be ridiculed by those who know what he speaks of and does not have the faintest clue ...
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
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AlealiaKitsune Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Wait what?

So... he writes about killing and torturing people who... dominate their willing partners... because he thinks the woman is brainwashed..... and taking photos of a fetish is wrong... but writing about murdering people is ok... and spying and stalking people is ok...

Just... what?

(Also, screenshot link doens't work :3)
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Link fixed, thanks. And yeah, he has several creepy poems about spying on women in parks & such and following them around. Here are two of his poems about murdering male Doms [link] [link] , both with disclaimers that he "doesn't really mean it." Notice in the Shibari one he STILL sticks in his stocking obsession... in other words he's fantasizing about a women clad EXACTLY in a way that turns him on being tied up so he can "save" her. Guess what "reward" he expects?
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AlealiaKitsune Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Those poems are... creepy D:

I mean sure, the photo your friend was involved in isn't my thing personally but I can appreciate it as a very well taken photo and I can understand that no one is being hurt against their will. No one is brainwashed or forced into anything.

But with him... stalking women... is so freaking creepy.

And honestly, as a women, I'd hate to be looked after and sheltered because of my gender. Sure, I want to be respected and cared for. But not just because I'm a woman. I want to be respected because I am a living, breathing, feeling, thinking being. It used to annoy me so much as a kid that I would never be picked to help move and carry things because I'm a girl despite my raised hand. It was always boys that were picked, even boys weaker than me. It never made sense. If I'm better for the job, why can't I help?

I don't agree in generalisation at all; saying that every woman is the best thing that ever happened is wrong. Women are people, which means we can just just as bad as everyone else. My gender doesn't make me holy or better than anyone else and it also doesn't make me worse.

Equality isn't making women more important.
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slephoto Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Exactly. And the thing is, if you know about the pathology of serial killers(I do), the way he makes women in to objects of "perfect worship" is dangerous, 'cause if a guy like that meets a woman who doesn't live up to his standards and she refuses to "repent" he suddenly sees her as "evil" and in need of "punishment." Next thing you know he's standing over her body writing "WHORE" on the wall in her blood.
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AlealiaKitsune Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2012  Student General Artist
Oh don't worry... I'm quite into psychology, especially that of killers. My Dad's really into it to, pretty much the only gifts I give him are books about a serial killer that go into their minds... they're quite interesting.

I totally agree... just putting that much expectations onto a person is wrong anyway... but it would be terrifying to see how he would react to the reality that not all women are godly and pure D: I mean... what if he considers not being a virgin impure? What if he considers the onyl pure way to lose your virginity is to him, so he rapes women? It could really go on to some terrifying things D:
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